tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4518793361069921238.post934664375690440660..comments2022-01-29T02:16:01.884+00:00Comments on Lucas Cambrensis: The "New" Rite Mass: The Source of all evils?Luke O'Sullivanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15188821050957025126noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4518793361069921238.post-85773415115879775372014-08-21T11:58:31.475+01:002014-08-21T11:58:31.475+01:00You published this post a long time ago so may not...You published this post a long time ago so may not get this comment. Apart from hurried or careless celebration there was little liturgical malpractice in the old rite. Why? Because it was very prescriptive, often rubrics were backed by pain of mortal sin, there were no choices of texts or ceremonies (except the occasional choice of celebration such as a particular votive Mass on an otherwise ferial day) and the whole culture of innovation, "relevance", pleasing the congregation and creativity in liturgy simply did not exist. That is why the changes were such a shock to us who lived through them. We had been told from our mother's knee that the Mass was universal, unchanging and unchageable, these were its greatest claims, and suddenly that rug was unceremoniously (literally!) pulled.vetusta ecclesiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454059029260192711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4518793361069921238.post-55373184943793166272013-11-20T17:48:09.197+00:002013-11-20T17:48:09.197+00:00If one advocates leaving one's parish and atte...If one advocates leaving one's parish and attending Mass with like minded folk and priests, then one is de facto establishing a two-tier, divided church. If "liberal" parishes are stripped of all those parishioners who want to live the fullness of Faith, without compromise, they will become emboldened and even worse theology and liturgy will abound. It may reasonably be argued that due to poor catechesis, at least in Britain, such parishes would be in the majority and that would be a dangerous precedent.<br /><br />The EF is not a watertight safeguard against disrespect to God because a priest or a member of the laity can attend any Mass and not act in a reverent fashion. Priests can rush through prayers (or even pretend to say them as the congregation can't hear what they are saying), make improper or half-hearted gestures etc. The congregation can still wear what they want, whisper and chat throughout Mass etc. Indeed, as the priest isn't facing them, they could be texting in the pews or reading the newspaper.<br /><br />It is not the rite per se which is the guarantee of reverence but rather the interior disposition of those that take part in it.Luke O'Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15188821050957025126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4518793361069921238.post-56763784870862957562013-11-20T12:43:12.962+00:002013-11-20T12:43:12.962+00:00I am not asking for a two-tier Church, I'm not...I am not asking for a two-tier Church, I'm not sure where you got that from. I ask for respect for the Lord, be it OF or EF. The fact of the matter is that the EF does not allow for disrespect to God, which is the beauty of it. Rhoslynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11974106206703455204noreply@blogger.com